Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up

KJV Verse: 

Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and you shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Greek Verse: 

Literal Alternative: 

Then they are going to give you over into oppression and they are going to kill you. Also, And you shall exist hating yourselves beneath all people, thanks to my name.

Interesting and Hidden Aspects: 

This verse continues the problems we have seen in this section because some of the words do not match the way that translators want it to be read. We say the same issues in Mat 10:22. The words translated as "hated" is a particular problems. Again, it makes more sense spoken to people.

"Shall deliver up" is from a compound word which literally means "to give over."

The phrase "to be afflicted" is an infinitive verb in English. This is not what is in the Greek.

The word translated as "to" means "into" a place, "towards" as a direction, and "up to" limits in time and measure.

"Be afflicted" is a noun that means "pressure", "crushing," and "oppression." Elsewhere, it is translated as "tribulations."

The Greek word translated as "and" is used as the conjunction "and", but it also is used to add emphasis ("also"). When used in writing, it creates complex sentences, but when spoken, it makes a good pausing point so that an important or humorous word can follow.

"Shall kill" is translated from a Greek word that means "destroy" more than just "kill" because its root word means "slay." The Greek source has the sense of "to kill off," that is, destroy in a more thorough way. When we talk about "destroying" someone, we use it to mean destroying their reputation, the strength of their spirit and ideas as well as physically killing them. This is more the sense here.

The "you shall be" verb here is the common form of "to be" in Greek. It means to have a certain characteristic or remain in a certain condition. Its form is the second person future, the "you shall be" part, but the way it is translated in the KJV (makes it look like a passive form, describing "being hated" by someone else. This is not the form of this verb of the following one. We use the verb "to be" in English as a "helper" to create passive forms. Ancient Greek does not. Greek uses the verb endings. Translating "shall be" as "shall exist" gets us away from the problem in English.

"Hated" is from a Greek verb meaning "to hate." However, it is in the form of a present participle (hating or the one hating), so it can be used as an adjective or noun. However, it is in a voice which indicates that the actor (subject) is acting (verb) on himself (object), "hating yourself." Pairing it with the verb "you shall be" makes it appear like a true passive but it isn't. The verb just connects the "you" to an adjective describing a state of being.

The word translated as "of" primarily means "by", "under," or "with" as it appears here. Its primary meaning is "under" both in the sense of moving under, being under, and being under different forms of compulsion.

The word translated as "all" is one word meaning "all", "the whole", "every," and similar ideas.

The word translated as "nations" means"a group of people living together," a nation, a tribe, or a cast of people. Later it came to mean "barbarous nations" similar to our idea of ethnic people.

"For" is from a word that means "through," in the midst of," or "by (a cause)." Of persons, it means "thanks to", "by aid of", but in prose, "by reason of", "on account of." Of course, Christ did not speak prose and he is speaking of a person, himself. This phrase has a humorous sense after all the warnings.

"My" is from the Greek pronoun in a form that means "my," or "mine."

The Greek word translated as "name" is much more complicated than it might at first appear. It can simply mean a "name" as in English, this can be many things. It doesn't mean the thing itself, but what people call it. For example, it can mean a "false name," or "a pretense" as we say "this is a marriage in name only." It can also mean representing another person's authority, as we say, "he is acting in the name of the boss."

There is no word meaning "sake" in the Greek. This is important because there is a specific Greek word that means "for [some] sake" and Christ uses it frequently. If Christ had meant to say "for my sake", he would have used this word. This is not what he meant to say.

Greek Vocabulary: 

τότε "Then" is from tote, which means "at that time" and "then."

παραδώσουσιν (verb 3rd pl fut ind act or part pl fut act masc/neut dat) "Deliver you up" is from paradidomi, which means "to give over to another", "to transmit", "to hand down", "to grant", "to teach," and "to bestow." -

ὑμᾶς (pron 2nd pl acc) "You" is from humas which is the plural form of su the pronoun of the second person, "you." -- The "you" here is plural, indicating all Christ's listeners.

εἰς "Into" is from eis, which means "into (of place)," "up to (of time)", "until (of time)", "as much as (of measure or limit)", "as far as (of measure or limit)", "towards (to express relation)", "in regard to (to express relation)", "of an end or limit," and "for (of purpose or object)."

θλίψιν (noun sg fem acc) "Afflicted" is from thlipsis, which means "pressure", "crushing," and "oppression." Elsewhere, it is translated as "tribulations."

καὶ "And" is from kai, which is the conjunction joining phrases and clauses, "and," or "but." After words implying sameness, "as" (the same opinion as you). Used in series, joins positive with negative "Not only...but also." Also used to give emphasis, "even", "also," and "just."

ἀποκτενοῦσιν (verb 3rd pl fut ind act) "To kill" is from apokteino, which means "to kill," and "to slay." It combines the word for "to slay" (kteino) with the proposition, apo, indicating separation, meaning "from" or "away from."but it is a stronger form than the normal verb kteino. It is more like our "destroy."

ὑμᾶς, (pron 2nd pl acc) "You" is from humas which is the plural form of su the pronoun of the second person, "you." -- The "you" here is plural, indicating all Christ's listeners.

καὶ And" is from kai, which is the conjunction joining phrases and clauses, "and," or "but." After words implying sameness, "as" (the same opinion as you). Used in series, joins positive with negative "Not only...but also." Also used to give emphasis, "even", "also," and "just."

ἔσεσθε (verb 2nd pl fut ind), which means "to be", "to exist", "to be the case," and "is possible." (The future form is esomai. The 3rd person present indicative is "esti.") -- When the verb "to be" appears early in the sentence before the subject, the sense is more like "it is" or, in the plural, "there are." -- The verb here is the common form of "to be" in Greek. It means to have a certain characteristic or remain in a certain condition.

μισούμενοι (part pl pres mp masc nom) "Hate" is from miseo, which means "to hate" and in passive, "to be hated." -- "Hated" is from a Greek verb meaning "to hate."

ὑπὸ "Of" is from hypo (hupo), which means [with genitive] "from under (of motion)", "down under," under, beneath," indicating a cause with passive verbs, "by", "under," or "with", "under the cover or protection of", "of the agency of feelings, passions," "expressing subjection or dependence," "subordinate", "subject to;" [with accusative] "towards" and "under" (to express motion), "under" (without a sense of motion), "subjection", "control", "dependence," of Time, "in the course of", "during", "about," as an adverb, "under", "below," beneath, the agency or influence under which a thing is done"by", "before,' and "under," (with genitive and passive verbs of cause). -- The word translated as "of" primarily means "by", "under," or "with" (with the genitive and a passive verb). Its primary meaning is "under" both in the sense of moving under, being under, and being under different forms of compulsion.

πάντων (adj pl masc gen) "All" is from pas, which means "all", "the whole", "every", "anyone", "all kinds," and "anything." In the adverbial form, it means "every way", "on every side", "in every way," and "altogether." -- The word translated as "all" is from the Greek adjective meaning "all", "the whole", "every," and similar ideas. When it is used as a noun, we would say "everything." As an adverb, it means "in every way", "on every side," and "altogether."

τῶν ἐθνῶν (noun pl neut gen) "Nations" is from ethnos, which means "a number of people living together", "company", "body of men," "tribe", "a people", "nation," and (later) "foreign, barbarous nations." -

διὰ "Through" is from dia which means "through", "in the midst of", "in a line (movement)", "throughout (time)", "by (causal)", "among," of persons, "thanks to", "by aid of", in Prose, "by reason of", "on account of", and "between." -- The word translated as "through" means "through," in the midst of," or "by (a cause)."

τὸ ὄνομά (noun sg neut nom/acc) "Name" is from onoma, which means "name." It means both the reputation of "fame," and "a name and nothing else," as opposed to a real person. Acting in someone's name means to act on their behalf, as their representative. -- The Greek word translated as "name" is much more complicated than it might at first appear. It can simply means a "name" as in English, this can be many things. It doesn't mean the thing itself, but what people call it. For example, it can mean a "false name," or "a pretense" as we say "this is a marriage in name only." It can also mean representing another person's authority, as we say, "he is acting in the name of the boss."

μου. (noun sg masc gen) "Me" is from emou, which means "me", and "mine". -- "Me" is from the regular first-person pronoun in Greek.

The Spoken Version: 

"Then," he continued using his ominous voice. "They are going to ="background-color:rgb(255, 217, 222)">turn you over into being crushed."

He made a grinding motion with his first into a palm.

"And," he said, pausing, then continuing in a more casual tone. "They are going to kill you off."

He drew his finger slowly across his throat and cocked his head. His followers laughed nervously.

"And," he said, pausing again, continuing in an even lighter tone. "You are going to hate yourselves...beneath all peoples."

He shook his head and they laughed again.

He looked at them, pretending to be shocked at their attitude.

"Thanks to my name," he said as if taking credit for something wonderful.

They continued laughing. They all knew he was telling them a sad truth, but, for some reason, he didn't seem to take issues of life and death that seriously.

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